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sam257
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posted 14 February 2007 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sam257     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey guys

i have just brought a taipan recently and sailing cat rig. i wont to put cat rig stays on (the 2 front stays) but have been told not many cat rig sailors do this. any suggestions on what i should do?

cheers

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HooD
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posted 15 February 2007 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HooD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The tang's of a 4.9 (the metal bits in the hull the bridal attaches to) are designed to take the load from a bridal with a single forestay. to put individual forestays on will change the direction of the load. ultimatley this will bend the tangs in a upward direction and in a worst case scenario cause cracking around the area.

best to stay with the bridal and single forestay.

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phil_taipan117
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posted 15 February 2007 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phil_taipan117     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twin forstays will interfere with a kite if you ever decide to go to F16 mode.

I have seen some cat rigged T4.9s using a Staymaster adjuster on the forstay for fine tuning the mast rake.

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dannyj
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posted 17 February 2007 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dannyj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
phil are we going to see you get another boat just sold f18 got taipan for my brother am looking at one for myself and sailing with kite

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phil_taipan117
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posted 17 February 2007 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phil_taipan117     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Danny

Lately the only time I seem to have is for the occasional lurking on the various cat e-groups. I miss my old boat (there is a photo of it on the Shanghai Sailing Club website).

The Taipan fleet in SA has fallen in a hole since 3 or 4 or us sold-up at the same time. It is good that your brother has picked up one and that you are thinking about a taipan also. Can only be good for cat sailing in general in SA.

Hopefully next season I will be in a position to seriously think about getting back into sailing. I would need to go one-up which narrows my options down to T4.9/F16 cat, A, or F14. I still have my trailer.

Phil

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mattaipan
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posted 18 February 2007 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattaipan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a photo taken at this years Nationals showing the StaMaster adjuster on the forestay of Dennis Bakers boat, Noel Grellet also has the same.

Quite happy to email it to you if you'd like.

By the way, it would be good thing to see some South Aus taipans hit the water again, I don't know how many are still sailing, but not nearly as many as there were years ago.

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Matt Harper
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dannyj
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posted 18 February 2007 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dannyj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At adelaide sailing club we have 2 sloop rig 1 cat rig with spinnaker at milang we have 2 boats. My brother will be sailing 1 up and i'm going to look at a boat this week if ok i will be sailing sloop rig at adelaide and milang.Also am thinking f16 later down the track as there is 1 blade f16 sailing at victor will convert if more hit the water thanks danny

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mattaipan
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posted 18 February 2007 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattaipan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The postal vote for the big head main change results should be announced sometime after 1st March, should be interesting, hopefully it will bring a few more back into play, but these things could either way I suppose.

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Matt

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richard campbell
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posted 18 February 2007 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for richard campbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
matt
could you letus know which way the vote goes on the main from those of us watching from the out side
thanks richard

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phil_taipan117
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posted 19 February 2007 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phil_taipan117     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hopefully the vote for the big head main will receive the required majority vote. The change should add a bit more interest and vitality to the class, not to mention more speed.

I doubt if the class will vote for any more changes, though, to bring it fully in line with F16 dimensions. That is wider and self tacking jib.

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mattaipan
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posted 19 February 2007 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattaipan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I'd agree with that, the mainsail would be about all that changes for quite a while I'd say, and for a one design class thats fair enough to, the class doesn't want to become F16, but theres nothing stopping anyone putting a kite on, to sail with the F16's either. Theres a mention of reviewing almost every aspect of the class in the near future and developing something along the lines of a five year plan.

I think the main change will go ahead, in just the last couple of months people have had more time to digest what the changes are. When I rang several class members early in piece, they didn't even know about the vote or the proposed change. The association has extended the no use in championships til the 2009 nationals, which is a good move for those who have bought new sails recently.

Anywho, I will let you know what goes on.

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Matt

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mattaipan
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posted 03 March 2007 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mattaipan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All

Well the Taipan 4.9 mainsail change has been voted on and the result is as follows.

79% For the Proposed Change.
15% Against.
5% Of votes deemed invalid.

There 83 voting forms sent out, 53 recieved back from memory.

Hopefully exciting times ahead for a fantastic class.

Regards

Matt

[This message has been edited by mattaipan (edited 03 March 2007).]

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