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Bridgehugger
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posted 29 August 2008 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bridgehugger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For anyone who is interested.


The first Taipan was built in April 1988.

The following year 5 more were built and boat 100 was built in 1994.

The sail numbers were issued sequentially starting at 1 and the last boat just sold is 339.

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HooD
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posted 02 September 2008 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HooD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't forget about the taipan 5.7's that help to make up sail number 339.

a little over 300 boats in 20 years, its not very good is it.

in 20 years how many hobie 16's have hit the water? they are probably still doing close to 300 boats a year now.

Its quite remarkable a product that is so good has sold so poorly.

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Bridgehugger
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posted 03 September 2008 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bridgehugger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you say is true Hood, but I'll bet a 1994 Hobie 16 wouldn't bring 8k. There are not too many 4.9 Taipans that are factory built, if you can find one, under that price.

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tornado
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posted 04 September 2008 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tornado     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very good info.

So 1988 - boat # 1

1994 - boat # 100

2008 - boat # 339

Can anyone expand on this. Very handy for those who are potentially in the market for a 4.9

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tornado
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posted 04 September 2008 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tornado     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1988 - boat # 1

1994 - boat # 100

2000 - boat # 228 (2000 or earlier)

2008 - boat # 339

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HooD
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posted 05 September 2008 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HooD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hardly fair to compare the pricing of a 1994 H16 to a 1994 Taipan. the Taipan cost close to 8k more than the hobie, so you can throw the hobie away and come out even.

there in lies the major problem with the 4.9. they hold thier value far too well. it makes it very difficult for new sailors to get into the class when the used boats are so expensive.

class's like lasers and hobie 16's have thrived on good sailors that choose to buy new boats after 12-18 months, and pass thier boats on rather than buy new sails.

taipan sailors buy new sails, not new boats.

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TornadoSport260
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posted 05 September 2008 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TornadoSport260     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the reasons the pro's buy new lasers every year is they need a new sail every year...

at $1k for a sail they sell the boat for $1k less than they bought it, so for the price of the sail (which they needed anyway) they get a new boat...

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Herman
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posted 06 September 2008 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Herman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great information, thankyou.
I have heard a rumor of a batch that may not have been as competative as others, as is the case for most boats. Has anyone heard this, and what year/sail no. would they be?

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Loose Change
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posted 07 September 2008 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loose Change     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Herman:
Great information, thankyou.
I have heard a rumor of a batch that may not have been as competative as others, as is the case for most boats. Has anyone heard this, and what year/sail no. would they be?


I find that rumours generally are just that .... rumours.

Usually started by disaffected people
Harry

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HooD
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posted 07 September 2008 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HooD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

TESTIMONIALS

Thanks for making the improvements.

I’m just writing a short note to complement you on the changes made to the 4.9 Taipan hull.

Having now owned both the series one hulls, (three part mould) and the series two hulls, (two part mould) I have to say that the later built hulls have improved performance on the earlier boat. The changes to hull shape has meant that the hull now planes earlier and due to the increased buoyancy, they re-surface better when reaching and running. And in my opinion allows the boat to tack easier.

I have sailed the boat in all conditions and I believe there is no question that the latest version hull have distinct advantages to performance and handling. Thanks for making the improvements.

Dennis Baker
Victoria
AUS 229


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BarryK1200LT
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posted 07 September 2008 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BarryK1200LT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Herman:
Great information, thankyou.
I have heard a rumor of a batch that may not have been as competative as others, as is the case for most boats. Has anyone heard this, and what year/sail no. would they be?

Hi Herman,
Maybe it's just a case of less competitive sailors rather than less competative boats?

Cheers

Barry

[This message has been edited by BarryK1200LT (edited 07 September 2008).]

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tornado
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posted 08 September 2008 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tornado     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tornado:
1988 - boat # 1

1994 - boat # 100

2000 - boat # 228 (2000 or earlier)

2008 - boat # 339


Can anyone expand on this, it may come in really usefull for potential buyers.

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Herman
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posted 09 September 2008 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Herman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HooD:
[QUOTE]
TESTIMONIALS

Thanks for making the improvements.

I’m just writing a short note to complement you on the changes made to the 4.9 Taipan hull.

Having now owned both the series one hulls, (three part mould) and the series two hulls, (two part mould) I have to say that the later built hulls have improved performance on the earlier boat. The changes to hull shape has meant that the hull now planes earlier and due to the increased buoyancy, they re-surface better when reaching and running. And in my opinion allows the boat to tack easier.

I have sailed the boat in all conditions and I believe there is no question that the latest version hull have distinct advantages to performance and handling. Thanks for making the improvements.

Dennis Baker
Victoria
AUS 229


[/QUOTE]

What year's/sail no.'s were these 3 part moulds in construction.

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HooD
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posted 09 September 2008 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HooD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.ahpc.com.au/p_testimonials.htm

I have a feeling its around boat 200. that is what I have read, cant remember where though.

you could always email AHPC and find out!

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Matt Homan 051
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posted 09 September 2008 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Matt Homan 051     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correct me if im wrong, wouldn't you rather buy into a class where you can buy a boat that is 15 years old and be more than competitive with any other class on the water. To be competitive on a hobie you cant have a boat more than 2 years old because they get soft this is why all the good guys upgrade every couple of years, have you ever seen a 15 year old 16 beat all the new ones around the course or been at the front of the fleet. I dont think so!!. This is why the taipan holds its value so good because you dont have to have a new boat to win states and nationals this has been proven over the years in both cat rigged and sloop rigged. I know I would rather spend 8 grand on a taipan and 5 years later sell it for the same money or even more than what I paid for it. I think its the best starter class for youth looking to start sailing doesn't matter if you spend 4 grand or 20 grand there all the same speed. I'm pretty sure for a new 16 on a trailer they are close to 18 grand anyway for an extra 3 grand I know what I would rather have.

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tornado
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posted 09 September 2008 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tornado     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Matt,

You know a bit about Taipans. Can you please even just loosly expand on the following.

1988 - boat # 1
1994 - boat # 100
2000 - boat # 228 (2000 or earlier)
2008 - boat # 339

Cheers
Stephen Medwell

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Matt Homan 051
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posted 10 September 2008 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Matt Homan 051     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not sure on sail numbers but I had 051 and it was built around 1992 or 1993 i think.
cheers Matt

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BarryK1200LT
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posted 10 September 2008 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BarryK1200LT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
051 is a good boat Matt, and it sails well 2 up, 1 up and none up?

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Bridgehugger
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posted 10 September 2008 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bridgehugger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The owner of 051 likes to sail alone, but 051 would rather sail by itself. Counciling may provide a solution.

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ausstricker
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posted 11 September 2008 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ausstricker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found this while searching through the taipan forum hope it helps


From sam257
HI tgh,
The older style boats are still very competitive in all classes.

Boats 0-180 are made in a three pice mould and boats 181 - curret are a two pice mould (joined along the center line).

The yahoo forum is very active but I don't know who looks after it , It took me a long time to get on as well I will try to fing out how you should contact.

Cheers Shane

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dannyj
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posted 14 September 2008 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dannyj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
153,154, 155 1998

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tornado
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posted 15 September 2008 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tornado     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, so far I have

1988 - boat # 1
....... – boat # 29
Late 80s - boat # 65
1994 - boat # 100
....... - boat # 122
1998 – boat # 155
....... - boat # 180
2000 - boat # 228
Nov 2001 - boat # 246
2008 - boat # 339

What else should you look for in a 4.9

Hulls - Glass, Kevlar, double Kevlar
Main - big head
Spreaders - proctor adjustable spreaders
C/boards - Glass / Carbon
Rudders - Glass / Carbon, rod lock down
Rudder stocks - Alloy / Carbon
Beach wheels - Eurotrax
Trailer - No tie down / galvanised registered.

What is a new main with battens worth? As far as I am concerned, a boat without a big main should be 2k (?) cheaper.

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slammer
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posted 15 September 2008 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slammer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]1998 – boat # 155
....... - boat # 180
2000 - boat # 228
QUOTE]

boat #163 1999

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