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  1. WILDCAT Regatta October 1-2-3

    Hi, what kind of courses will be offered - anything for non-spinnaker boats - and in particular for the 14's? PP
  2. NEW WINDRUSH ASSOCIATION WEBSITE

    Looking good...! May I suggest a section / page  for each state - where owners can post pics showing how they enjoy their boats? PP
  3. Yet another newbie advice thread

    IMHO, it's not 'insane' to buy new... as long as you buy the 'right' boat 4U… Buying new means you'll be immediately competitive - assuming of course you know what you're doing... The hard part about used boats is to find 1 that's not gonna cost you at least what you already paid for it (or more) - to make it competitive... The other thing is you must be realistic about its primary use. If it's 90% racing - then the Taipan is probably the right boat - especially if there are clubs nearby - and there's at least 1 sailor willing to help you get up to speed... But it it's going to be a dual-purpose boat - and you don't want the hassle of centre-boards, you want fast single-handed rigging and the ability to go where you want occasionally - on your own (complete independence) then the Windy / Maricat / Nacra 430 makes a whole lot more sense... With a set of beach rollers, you can quite easily launch and retrieve most 14 footers. Skippers in the know will also share the single-handed mast raising techniques with you. The Nacra 450 is just too large and heavy to do most of that - but definitely an excellent load-carrier for when you take heavier crew along for the thrills. Unfortunately the Taipan (and boats like it) can't effectively sail in shallow water due to centre-boards. Like the Paper Tiger - it's a little fragile if handled poorly. At 75kgs - u r spot-on to be competitive in the Windrush 14 / Maricat 4.3 / Nacra 430 Super-sloop configurations. They're pretty indestructible - and can be rigged/de-rigged solo - and sailed pretty much anywhere... The pix above of the W14 Super Sloop clearly demonstrate that if you can find a nice bulkhead or foam sandwich boat - you'll have a ball - without all the hassles and drama of the larger boats... If you can somehow stumble across a genuinely good (cared for) used Windy / Maricat or Nacra 430 - you should seriously consider it. But be prepared to pay more than $5K. About $6K - $8K is the going price... and if it's a Windy or Maricat make sure it's around the 105kgs rigged weight - max. The Nacra 430 is heavier - but not sure how much heavier... You just don't see Taipans, or even Paper Tigers being sailed off sandy beaches purely for pleasure. They were designed as racing boats - and are very good at it - but not so nice as 'fun / easy-to-sail' recreational craft. The Taipan will 99% of the time require someone to help rig it - and to manipulate it on and off the trailer - after all it's a 16ft boat - albeit a light boat at 105kgs all-up - but if I'm wrong then someone please correct me... The Nacra 450 is nearly 130kgs and 15ft long - so realistically needs 2 to manhandle it... either that or get thyself to a gym and put on 25kgs of muscle... For a very good comparison, download the current VYC Catamaran Yardsticks - you'll notice the N450 and Windrush 14 Super Sloop are within 1 'point' of each other... and suggested skipper weight is also very, very close too... http://websites.sportstg.com/get_file.cgi?id=36015974 As suggested above, finding a good used boat (without hidden faults) is the real difficulty. That's why buying new can make a lot of sense. Realistically, it means you shouldn't have to buy anything for it for at least 5 years - and you can just hop on – tune it correctly – and go for it... It's what I did - and I don't regret it a bit. Keep in mind that you can sail to handicap at any club - it's only if you want the same boat that others are sailing that that aspect becomes the deciding factor... PP  
  4. Yet another newbie advice thread

    Some pix from South Gippsland Yacht Club... PP
  5. Yet another newbie advice thread

    Not sure how far you're prepared to travel Simon, but South Gippsland Yacht Club appears to be approx 1.5hrs drive from the middle of the eastern side of Port Phillip Bay. It looks like a brilliant place to sail - and they do have a couple of very nice Windrush 14s regularly tearing it up down there... check out the website - look for the section titled "Serious Surf Stuff 2015 day 3 Gallery" Some very enticing pix there... also on their splash page a very cool pic of a Windy in full flight ; 1-up Super Sloop. If that image doesn't get your interest - nothing much will... Maybe worth the drive? PP  
  6. Yet another newbie advice thread

    The best boat will really come down to how much you weigh, and how much you expect your occasional accomplice to weigh. Realistically, anything over say 120kgs-130kgs combined weight on any 14 is too high to be competitive - unless it's blowing 20 knots +. And then (as far as the 'fun' factor goes)  it's relative to what everyone else in the fleet's sailing. If you want ease of use / rigging and manipulation on the beach / off and on the trailer, then the Windush 14 / Nacra 430 / Maricat 4.3 is the way to go. If you want to go solo 90% of the time - then the Taipan 4.9 is the go... Keep in mind you can put a spinnaker on a Windy or Nacra 430 - and boost their light weather performance considerably - and also give the crew something to do as a sloop-rigged/spinnaker boat. You may be able to find a reasonable condition 'bulk-head' Windrush 14 for around $5K on trailer - but it may take some time... Check out the Windrush Sailors Forum - (look for the 'Fun Vids' of Windrush 14) - to see some cool action videos on the boat... PP
  7. Tiller grip

    For those who have too much money, the Arriba Sticks are heavy but very tough for telescoping extensions - and very expensive... I still have one - and may go back to it for heavy-weather sailing. I believe The Life Aquatic in Mona Vale carry them... Right now I'm using a Ronstan Battle Stick - but they're fragile - and I agree the synthetic plastic 'knuckles' are suspect in heavy weather.. CST Composites do non-telescoping sticks - very highly recommended - Google them. PP
  8. Fun Vids

    Could we get some info about which drone George was using? The consensus seems to be that the DJI Phantom 4 drones are best at holding their position in strong breezes - up to around 20 - 25 knots... but there's still some debate about it... Their cheaper DJI Mavic drone also seems to be one to consider, but it doesn't have the same 'obstacle avoidance' sensors that the Phantom 4 Pro does... and as it's smaller it sounds like it wouldn't be as effective in stronger winds - and would be subject to getting blown about... Also, has anyone experimented yet with the 'Follow Me' function - on a fast moving cat? I understand that the drones can be made to lock onto an object - or a person - but a fast moving catamaran that changes its outline depending on it's orientation to the drone may be problematic? I think that a 'fun' video showing how arriving at the beach / rigging-up and getting on the water is so fast and easy - along with some exciting aerial footage is just what the Windrush 14 needs... I'd do it, but I'm not a competent drone pilot yet... PP
  9. Fun Vids

    Walpole 'In The Trees' Regatta 2017:- Nice starting sequence of the Mixed Catamaran Fleet - aerial/drone footage of some hot Windy Super Sloops mixing it up with a couple of Hobie 16's - all motoring off the line... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK3xiy1PH_8
  10. Windrush 14 Rudder Problem

    The small shackle through the flexible tiller joint is an excellent modification... nice work...
  11. Fun Vids

    Very kooool.. u should stick that on YouTube - with a little soundtrack behind it... and location... Here's an excellent shoot - at South West Rocks - windsurfing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACQCmFTdhNM A combo of close-up and wide angle/distance shots... with a complementary sound-track that doesn't overwhelm the visuals... This really is the kind of promotional video Windrush should do... Just purr-fekt environment at South West Rocks - lots of accommodation and a pub / eateries and modern amenities... who wouldn't want to sail there after seeing this? PP
  12. Sydney Social Cat Sailors Group

    Sure did... you can find it here:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1377025849023628/ I have yet to 'stalk' Gumtree and other on-line resources for potential members - but I'll get around to it eventually - hopefully we can get a core group of at least 6 to 10 sailors/crews up and motivated to do some weekends for next season – particularly up at South West Rocks...
  13. Sydney Social Cat Sailors Group

    Hi everyone, after surveying the 14ft / 16ft cat sailing scene in Sydney for a few years, it's become apparent that there isn't an opportunity for 14ft (or 16ft) cat sailors to get together on an ad-hoc basis... Kurnell Catamaran Club is focused on racing the high-performance larger designs - and typically there are no 14's sailing there regularly. And getting them to develop 14ft cats (as a training class for their juniors) is seemingly a futile exercise... Concord-Ryde sails on a Saturday - so that precludes many of us who work Saturdays from attending their events... My idea is to start a Cat Sailors Social Group - and to maybe put up a Facebook page - where we can loosely plan Sunday get-togethers - possibly around a central Sydney venue like Clontarf - (which is easy to get to for anyone within an hour of the CBD) - and to occasionally attend 1-Day Regattas at various venues. Nothing serious - but an opportunity to help get social sailors up to speed with sailing/tuning clinics, and for friendly 'ad-hoc' races around the bay using existing marks - very much 'low-key' stuff... Occasionally, travel for weekends away at South West Rocks or Jervis Bay - for example... I appreciate this is not the site to find these sailors, but it's a start? Any feedback would be great... PP
  14. Is this a Hawke surfcat?

    It's sad when stating facts gets in the way of emotions... so I guess I'm a 'snob' for doing so... But hey, thanks for the name-calling... :( Selling points 'over' Maris and Windys? Please. Innovative, clever design lasts. Cheap, copy-cat designs with no original ideas usually don't. That's why the Hawke Cat and others like it are 'dead'... and it never had any selling points over the Maricat or Windrush 14. Or Hobie 14 for that matter... If it did, it may still be in production...  
  15. Sydney Social Cat Sailors Group

    He's the skipper in that smoking pic of the Windrush 14 Super Sloop I posted above...
  16. Hi guys n gals, we've just developed a new hoist - especially designed to accommodate wider items like cats on trailers, powerboats, Jet-Ski trailers and caravans. It's freestanding and portable - so absolutely no need to bolt it in place... (240V/15amp power supply) The standard-sized 4-Post hoists can't squeeze a cat trailer on - hence the need to create something wider. This model has nearly 3.10m 'drive-through' for the item on top, and a little more than that for the item left on the ground. It will come with a Rolling HD Jacking Tray - that you can place the jockey wheel into... It's rated at 4000kgs and will fit a larger car or 4WD underneath - as it has 2.082m under the crossbar at the top lock - so no bumping of heads either...! The pic with my Windy on the hoist is the previous model. The new version has the full tube section posts, wrap-around crossbars and alloy approach ramps - the latest design in this type of hoist... First 2 due into our Sydney showroom late March '17... for under $5,000.00 - you just can't beat it as a very flexible storage solution... BTW, there is also a Side-By-Side Parker model - which lifts 2 cars at once - which installs into less than 5.30m width space... Hope this is interesting for everyone… PP (Hero Hoists, Sydney)   Lift King Boat & Caravan Parker.pdf
  17. Sydney Social Cat Sailors Group

    Hey Matt, the social sailors wanna go faaaast too - (that's probably why they bought a cat instead of say - a Laser - right?) And it just so happens that a correctly tuned boat is just so much more fun to sail socially too. You can't learn that from just 'pottering about'... The 'problem' seems to be the 'seriousness' that many perceive when they get involved in racing - and nobody wants to be Tail-End Charlie too many times - or even once... The flip-side is that once you do race - and you get support from others sailing the same boat - it increases the 'fun-factor' when you just want to go for a blast - coz the boat feels a whole lot better when it's correctly set-up. Too many are turned off sailing because the boat wouldn't turn, or it was sluggish - or wouldn't respond etc etc... or they pickled it and couldn't right it - leading to an initially negative experience. The plus side of racing is that you have a rescue boat - and knowledgeable sailors to give you advice - if you ask for it... I don't really think the racing guys are jealous at all - it's just that they get a kick out of pushing their boats - and themselves - to the limit... Ideally you want a mix of both - which is what I'll attempt to do - if I get enough interested cat sailors... PS The guy sailing Hot Pepper is Warren Pfeffer - (now trying his hand with a Maricat 4.3) - who is one of the nicest guys I ever met - he's probably among the best 5 Windy sailors to ever step on the boat... very friendly and always happy to offer advice to me and others - so not all racers are hard-nosed egotists - I can assure you...  
  18. W14 Square Top Main

    There's really nothing more I can add... sorry. if you sail with a racing fleet - this kinda basic question can be answered by anyone who's prepared to listen to your concerns... and put your boat next to theirs and 'play' around with things... PP
  19. Sydney Social Cat Sailors Group

    Hey Matt, yes, I'm aware of your group - in fact I modeled my idea on it... As far as the 'N' boats go - yes I get it - they're the 'North American Catamaran Racing Association' - what are they doing here in OzTrayLeeYah? They are like the Myna birds of the Cat Sailing Scene... Yes, I know I'll be crucified for saying that - but how about Australians supporting local designers and innovative Australian design? As far as I'm concerned, everyone should be on a Windrush 14 or F18 Edge - but seeing as Windrush don't make a 16 yet - then go the Hobie 16's! BTW, my frustration came about as a consequence of the curious attitude at KCC - their 'take' on things is that there isn't a suitable 14ft training boat available... I say 'bollocks' to that... the Windrush 14 is the most versatile boat for teenagers - or an adult and a teenager - as it's able to be sailed in many different configurations - and it isn't hard to find reasonably good boats at silly prices online... but there's nobody down there who wants to make it happen... just a bizarre attitude for a Catamaran Sailing Club... :( Anyway - I appreciate your thumbs-up for the idea - hopefully we can get something happening down here too... and one day meet you guys at South West Rocks...  
  20. Rudder Wire Replacement

    Listed at $9.79 each on the Windrush online store. Plus delivery - which might be $5.00 - $10.00 max. What's your time worth? Petrol to and from the local yacht shop? Shame that more sailors don't support the manufacturer - even if it might cost a dollar or 2 more - this is how the manufacturer can afford to keep your boat on the water - by your support... Please appreciate that Windrush don't sell new Windrush 14s very often - maybe 1 or 2 a year - if that - and when they do, there is no money in it for Brett. He keeps the class alive becoz he loves the boat - like we do - not as a money-making exercise. To begrudge him making some profit on parts - well - it's a very sad attitude...  
  21. W14 Square Top Main

    You should be just shy of block-to-block when sheeted on hard in a strong breeze - 15 knots + So, mast rake is determined by that... and the less 'slop' you have in the rig - the more responsive she will be... Luff tension should always be 'full-on' - and even more so in a strong breeze - give it heaps. Of course, off-wind reduce luff tension according to wind strength and the set of your sail... Take your battens (and sail) to a local sailmaker - he will show you the curve in them - (basically, put one end against a wall or something solid - and push) - and then get some stiffer/heavier ones ordered... Make sure the maximum draught (camber)  is no further back than 35% - 40% along their length - in other words you want the drive 'forward' - and a 'clean' aerofoil exit to the shape. Generally the top 3 battens should have less 'depth/camber' than those below. You get power from the bottom 2/3rds of the sail going upwind, and the top 1/3 should really be laying off and 'feathering' - especially in stronger breezes where it just adds to healing, and doesn't add to speed... Downwind the top 1/3 is being utilised for even more drive - but the balance must be found carefully, as too much power can quickly lead to a pitchpole on a broad or close reach... too much 'fun' - huh? Anyway, there are plenty of articles online talking about cat sail / batten shape - just do some research... Of course, these are just general guidelines... you really MUST get some 'boat-to-boat' comparisons happening...
  22. W14 Square Top Main

    Continuing on from the post on the Australian Catamaran Forum.. The main issue is probably a combo of too soft battens / mast rake - and possibly a too loose rig... The thing to do is to hop on someone else's boat - and they sail yours for a while - trading tacks etc - so that a comparison can be made... if you can get a 3 or 4 boat 'swap' going - this is enlightening for all concerned - and will highlight any faults in your own boat... Or, send some photos here - taken from behind the boat; sail sheeted on tight with traveler centred - or very close to centre with enough luff tension to remove all creases from the leading edge...
  23. W14 Square Top Main

    Hi Shellgrit, the battens supplied by Windrush tend to be too soft - which causes a 'hook' in the sail. I changed mine to stiffer ones - supplied by Redhead Sails. The new battens have the draught further forward, and do not curve back on themselves in the last 2/3rds of their length, like the original ones did... Especially the top 2 or 3 battens cannot have the maximum draught too far back - and need to be stiffer again than the battens below. Ideally, you want a 'clean' exit when sheeted on - and if the sail is 'hooking' - that would account for the telltales stalling. Keep n mind that you do want the telltales to be on the verge of stalling - on some points of sail - as this is when the sail is working optimally. But this is a BIG topic to get into... and a lot will depend on the mast too. From my years in the class, I understand that there can be a significant variation in the stiffness and bend characteristics of masts. So, a mismatched mast/sail combo can definitely slow you down. If you can get a local sailmaker to inspect the sail on the boat, that will be invaluable…  
  24. W14 Square Top Main

    OK, this post really should be transferred to the Windrush Sailors Forum - where u will get a lot of good advice. However, the way you're trimming the sail, luff tension, traveler position etc etc - can all have dramatic effects. You may also be trying to point too high - so an understanding of when to bear away and when to 'pinch' is critical... But, as I said, if the sail is 'hooking' - then that needs to be rectified by stiffer battens, tighter luff tension, and possibly a re-cut to more closely match the mast curve. That can only be ascertained by a trained eye - so get the boat rigged up in front of a sailmaker who understands catamaran sails... Where r u located? Do you have any means of comparison?
  25. V 3.5 sailing report.

    Hi Guzzis3, the only thing you need to remove is the rudders - I'd say that's a 5 minute job at most. There's no need to dismantle anything else. Dismantling the Caper Cat would take a lot longer - and then having to put it together again - big hassle. It's also a bigger, heavier boat - so to car-top it would be a challenge. Absolutely agree with you - it's an ideal cruising boat - and fitted that purpose nicely. Shame something newer like it hasn't been developed. The boat that you saw via the link to Gumtree - yes it's a Windrush 14. Looks old - but it might be OK...  as I said you want at least a 'bulkhead' boat in reasonable condition; the earlier boats were overbuilt and heavy by comparison to say, a Hobie 14 of the same era. Here's an example of a very nice boat - but it's in the ACT:- https://www.allclassifieds.com.au/automotive/boats-and-jet-skis/windrush-14-catamaran/ad42fc6c1cde7c4d4683a623103794fb173c The thing is, a correctly set-up Windrush 14 is probably the nicest 14 to sail - alongside a properly tuned Paper Tiger or Maricat 4.3 - regardless of wanting to race or not.  General consensus is that it's also the best trapezing platform - if that flicks your switch... A properly tuned and set-up boat is a joy to sail for fun too... it's how I get my kicks 90% of the time. Raising the mast solo on W14 is no big deal either - there are a few ways to do it without coming to grief - check the Windrush Forum for details. (you can also get the 'old' disc rudders - for shallow water adventures…) My 10 cents worth was simply to bring a viable alternative to your attention - on which you could conceivably do a lot more, take another person out occasionally - and in a wider range of conditions. Certainly not to denigrate your choice, or smaller cats in general… Car-topped width of the Windy is 1.91m - well under the legal 2.438m