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  1. Boatsie

    Mast lifting torque

    I just bought a Hobie 18.. Haven't used vessel yet love this idea I saw on YouTube.. The mast raises from pivot forward hence the forestay tensions the lift. On YouTube a brilliant guy placed a tube perpendicular to mast at mast pivot and fed the lift via the radius of tube thus torquing the lift from lay. I intend to build a righting pole which cups the mast pivot and slots a feed line on other end.. As mast nears vertical, the pole can drop out having done job yet during job pressure will hold system together. Much like a torque pole leading tension of Guy pole clew. (Still an idiot but an idiot with a surf boat. Lol) Boatsie
  2. Boatsie

    Advice

    Seeking advice. Stingray. Do they behave ok with 1 man? Rigging, sea kindliness, derigging. Ditto with Cobra. Seen them advertised too. Seeking a quick easy launch sail boat. Cats tick a lot of boxes. Most life expectancy is.. A quick launch cat single handed. Local coast days. Race and/or cruise. Inexperienced crew if crewed probable. On it to have fun. I like rough weather. I haven't on her. Will be a while before I learn catsize techniques, etc. Currently I've seen a Cobra and a Stingray at around $1000. Happy to seaworthy a season and race the following year. Major components important. Car breaks down, we walk. Feast beasts swim with us out there. Preferred location; windy and flat. Nathan
  3. Boatsie

    Thanx

    I think I've luffed much of your times. Thanx. Taken advice. Seeking 1 man cat. Probably won't cruise. Just coast run and river hits of speed. Found an A class without trailer. Any trailers for sale to suit? Adelaide. Nathan
  4. Boatsie

    Thanx

    I meant Milang.. Best of luck. I don't know the race. Reads like fun. Races there continent side of the dunes read like fun. I don't know the waters. The Stingray has swing boards. The A class is dagger but no need of crew. Realm is helm, let the wind overwealm. Looks like lovely shallow protected waters, I've seen daggers smashed due to high bed slaughters. I'd be happy soon learning that place to giddy up a good pace. You beauty.. Finally an affordable cat pair, ashore too long. Thanx catsailors, if I hadn't read into it I'd probably have kept going at a larger keelboat. Looking forward to overpowered cats. You beauty. Thank.. Godspeed
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    Advice

    Anyway... Anyone know where I may obtain a copy of Stingray class rules please? He looks like a nice vessel.. Needs a tidy..99% sure I'll be allowed to garage the beast. 'You don't buy a boat, you purchase the option to upkeep a vessel'..I read that from a cruiser and unlike a boat; if a car breaks down you don't have to swim ashore. Do nationals attract much fleet? I don't mind thinking I'll repair via 2 of 3 method.. Time, quality, cost.. Choosing time and quality. Has minor issues.. Might as well hang off until certain of class rules. Fix once, fix properly.
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    Thanx

    Good luck with Goolwa to Meningie race madboutcats. I like your video. Nice 2. 99% sure my plan follows yet if 1% out.. Something similar. Internet like sailing anyway.. HTTP heel turn thrust pitch. Zero 3 and use the rest.. I like how you guys heel the seas. Trailer issues doesn't seem to be such. Looking at piggybacking an A class smiley traveler eight one advantage lightweight with above Stingray below. Once home, Stingray gets ceiling and a year to mildly modify.. Maybe +1 crew and next years Goolwa-Meningie. Maybe family /friends like 5 minute lift out way and lower Stingray to enjoy a day with me. Trailer suits both. I'll get speed wobbles a while and I'm a bit deaf but I'm looking forward to dancing near you guys. PST.. Might be better to give me next to the gunboat so that I can hear the start bang.. Lol. Shaking the hustling aft. Faking the gusting blast. Raking the lead edge to go fast. Looking forward to a foiled clear clean lead edge on main. Surely that'll point like a kitten.. Hoping body young enough to cope with mind.. Just happy to race again (25 years)
  7. Boatsie

    Zx12r

    $4200.. A really nice bike. Non restricted model. 350kmph speedo. Yet handles twisties superbly. I have no use. Well cared.
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    Zx12r

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    Thanx

    I've noticed some use traditional screw method to trace a triple block pair into a 6:1 advantage. We pull at 90degrees as shown. Eliminates system torque and keeps system tidy. Same advantage without the twisting motion. If home time includes using the blocks to hoist, will hoist straight up rather than turn. Easy to trace and set up and without torque during use it is very reliable at close haul and line length. Getting a boat soon, so frighteningly happy, you're welcome, will work on the river race next year.
  11. Boatsie

    Thanx

    I like water too. A uniform mass. Water is like air with uniformity; easy paths. If I can find a ball to fit to mast tip, that'll better airflow. Better yet worse. Or better to my use would be two buoyancy bouys with a wind vane on top. True or apparent? Anyway, thanx mbc, I'm out, it was my catsized cap moment. I lied. Went to pick up, issues with trailer rego, I'll find another boat. Simply couldn't get a permit at 0700 on a Sunday while there in Melbourne. I love how in front of the sails leading edge flows a channel with more energy than the sails catch. When leeward, although almost shadowed by windward boat yet only a bow portion in front. A stronger higher point becomes available.. I here someone calling, "Up windward boat, up, " I need heave, thank heaps, chao Edit: I figure heaps in same boat as me. Just planning to learn helm. That needs minor work.. Major upgrade is there; swinging centre boards. Solid boat. Minor details. Mast foot bracket, bung plug, keel strips and tiller arm. He'd be solid speeding shallows such as Port Phillips bay, Semaphore , North Arm, Port Vincent ,etc without worry of damage. I'll see you out there someday soon. Most probably in something like the modified Stingray, a Cobra, a Hobie, a Mosquito... Or whatever I do get. I think I'm old.. Ouch. Just a last edit because I think it's funny although my loss. Last time I mistimed a major mistake was a tack. The sheets weren't held to force tack and we bobbed, luffed. Main sheet and I saw it coming and covered in bildge but foresheet copped it in his arm; bow of greater than 2 tonne. Paralyzed his arm. A dead arm of approximately 2 days. Due to work commitments I can't luff in Melbourne 2 days. Even trailer fantastic, hull suspend type, easy maintenance if ever needed on hulls. Nearly had me a race boat. Heaving..
  12. Boatsie

    Thanx

    Self righting monos is a bit misleading. The Dragon will sink if capsized; open cockpit, high wall rim seat. Only came close once. Race became gale. My forehand was 6'9 yet really agile a moment. At bottom can, the chute door was opened, the spinnaker retrieved into hull, coming around into beat we watched him race forward, seal hatch and hug mast as bow buried and deck flood covered his legs and some torso. She'd handle full sail in light gale hence gonna wale submersion never really bothered us much. She'd take a foot under and too long to story. I want a crew soon. Can't miss the boat, bright as. Basic.. Just white sails. Racing to learn habits. Experience not necessary. Half hour rigging*2 . I have sail wash down posts at home. Just basic rock up and ride suits me too. I've only crewed on steerage. Air at leading edge via a guy pole and helm on tiller. I love learning too and that is practice. I'm just typing because I haven't a crew. (I doubt we'll win, just plane fun) I'm 45, I'm unsure of trap but believe I'll love it, I've had arthritis 38 years hence nervous rhythms I enjoy. Body ok but hidden is 2 ankle breaks, 2 leg breaks, probable back break healed with ancient due to modern mistrust of medical habits, a broken hand, a broken wrist, a broken shoulder, a broken collarbone and many breaks of facial bones. I wouldn't be interested in a single race crew yet more so with 1 season. Not that great a sailor, just interested in speed and continuous motion underway. I write way too much.. Ready to learn by self or with someone that wants a season. I @96kg in case you want to do the physics. Thanx guys regarding sites advice etc.
  13. Boatsie

    Thanx

    righting pole sorted. Will build width to fit. Shouldn't be a hassle. Thanx. ☺️
  14. Boatsie

    Thanx

    Thank mbc, I read you owned a Stingray. I've never righted a cat. Only ever pushed self righting mono hulls. 'FatBoySlim' won't see water until November, maybe October. Small vandalism issues to seaworthy. Tilt, turn, thrust; torques sail craft. I'll learn the Stingray later but know I'll go swimming. I am looking at training wheels such as foam or ping pong ball captivity in spar plus a couple of 2 litre empty milk bottles in lue of a cock on the tip. I'd have thought that a stand on leeward board into a hang from windward stay would weight the windward hull and sail the trampoline to lift the weak purchase of the leeward hull fulcrum. Very interested in easy ways too bro. What shaft length righting pole would you recommend with a Stingray please? Ideas entertaining me at moment include fabrication of spare centre boards with +20 or +30 kg low line and/or brace traps to lead weight aft keel of hull. By next year I will have sailed and felt my opinion of the cats preferred pitch ballast placement. I'm pretty ignorant of catamarans at the moment yet every boat is different yet same. I'd love a Tornado, I've only seen videos but they're displacing at beyond displacement speeds easily rather than planing (edit: that's written incorrectly.. They're maintaining above displacement speeds when parting through lumps rather than suffering from bow bury). Too my eyes; that is a stable missile rather than a hot rocket. Might take a couple of years to modify this house to shelter such (without the damage risk of reversing through a 5metre gap of 10.5 feet and not much height). Having a few months to research, definitely interested in any ways to improve my safety. I'll probably be reefing main too.. Nice and easy with batterns. Not a racing lost.. I don't plan too win; just survive. I love boats too.
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    Thanx

    I bought 'FatBoySlim' Stingray Pick up soon. I'll probably ballast to suit 1 up and seek allowance to race at Largs. I think they can a 16foot skiff, Sharpies, Fireballs. Plus if day long enough can always camp and cruise. Fairway beacon about 7 mile out, long sand ledge north of that . That's an awesome spot. Usually a reach with a running swell. Bigger sharks from depth surf there. Dolphins from shallows play too. I like it. Wouldn't want a bang stick due to a catsized cap there though. About half depth of spar. Anyway.. Done my lies about catsized caps.. Found a vessel. 1/2 hour solo rig. Good enough. Thanx
  16. Looking at a small skiffing cat to practice sail with next 10 years. A yearly raced national class preferred. Possibly just me and a mainsail locally on days of my ability to begin with until I find a mate. At the moment 3 boats I'm interested in include Stingray, Cobra, Tornado. I work a lot, I don't visit the dinghy clubs, I'd rather the Tornado because she's a huge international class and a monster of a family boat but not sure if I could store her yet (found a hole 10.5*7.5feet). I'd prefer Largs Bay Sailing club as my tour D cans. Unsure about my plan, we're wear where? Where's the most appropriate wear of wind to locally race such classes? I am very ignorant of dinghy racing. I'd skippered a keel yacht a season yet someone else had organized all that. Has to be raced north of Brighton or knot along the coast. Any thoughts please? Any cat classes I should look at in Adelaide? Nathan
  17. Boatsie

    New to catamarans, Adelaide

    Thanx Madboutcats, thanx others, thoughts are kind. I do write too much. I think I'll finish my input and sail soon.. My biggest source of information is my old man. The Tornado will fit here but reversing into a gap with less than 1/4 foot either sides of gonne Wales (:)) isn't appealing. Speeding in the harbour is. Yet years ago they clocked someone on a Paper Tiger at 39 knots in flat waters, non restriction of wind behind a harbour wall in NSW? hence on a plane, a boats a skiff and balancing light with might is almost flight unless your foiling the moment. The Stingray is the largest cheap cat that I can think of that will easily tow and store inside where I am. I really like the older design??? large volume bows. Beyond displacement buries the bow due to the uniformity of water; the uniform mass returns to the trough of displacement slower than the hulls wave length. Water is an easy path and it's easy to push out of the way and more inefficient an energy use to compress below hence bow sinks until planing when knots are above displacement speeds. I'd rather something with that little bit of safety than snap a spar in the shallows like the old man did. This could also be useful in challenging sea conditions. I'm off to ask quest I on in the Stingray /Cobra forum. Maybe someone there might have a language that describes their know. Simple stuff like ease of 1 man balancing on boat or does design pedigree create difficulty with such a 2 man vessel. Handling, rigging, catsized righting.
  18. Boatsie

    New to catamarans, Adelaide

    I write to much, I'd value your opinions if able to print. These are the two cats I'm interested in. A frozen glimpse of time. Both cats have a basic rig. No ram pole guy clew and sock to add to my repair/maintenance pile once underway. A gutsy fully batterned main with a quality leading edge. A hedsail. Orange Stingray currently on Ebay at $1000. An educated owner. Trailer perfect. Was cared well with storage until recently. Hulls recently overhauled and tight. Glass ply sandwich. Vandals cut the tiller yet basically ready to go with very little effort. I like the price, the trailers with SA plates and the hulls look surf likeable. The large volume bows and the low volume sterns look sturdy in weather from my prospective. 2 on trap, guy clew pole upgradable with respect to design riggers comments per another forum/topic. From experience, if I was to further enhance hull brace rigidity using cross section cut tarpaulin I could do so without hassles of cross windage towing as she tows flat. I'm guessing there's a few in SA hence you beauty around the cans. White Tornado looks like a missile. $3600 with single trap classic rig. I like the beam, that'd compensate a lot of heel torque. They're both above my level but I learn. Not liking assembly thoughts. Shouldn't be too much of a hassle. A little bit of wonder here exists regarding the tarpaulin. Plenty of modern rigs exist if she's ever over ended and snapped. She has a full length boat cover and she's kept inside a garage. A sound glass foam sandwich ready to rock and roll. I have a large tarp which can cover her cover while she sits flat under partial cover if she finds home here. If she uses garage she'll need flat tyres and a partial tilt arrangement. Hole 8*9 foot. I will be removing some race pedigree from the girl I find. Battens should make easy to reef main. I'd probably not bother using the hedsail. Round her up. I like night, bright shine upon cloth as illumination to allow others in the playground to know I'm there. A small tranny clip able to stay to allow a 9metre aerial receives ABC weather. They are a regular forecast. Wrist alarm will allow hull drop and listen. Just in case. I'm sitting until May. Any opinions regarding handling of either or another would be greatly appreciated. Any opinions regarding setting up launch, wash down, etc too please. Just a happy guy without a guy clew to watch.
  19. Boatsie

    A crazy world.

    I think this world is crazy. Cats are a stable platforms yet able to be used as a thin skiff with a huge advantage heel. No trailer weight, hence small car towable easily. I easy stuff. Paper Tigers are gems. 14feet. Trampoline width cradles 6*4 box trailers. Light weight. Get up and go in blow. Dads was king. The state champion bought him 'Shere Khan' Built on experimental glass foam sandwich hulls, fitted out with titanium, lead blocks on keels required to obtain race weight yet the most rigid heavy weather cat of the worlds fleet at the time (probable). I'd love another 14 footer yet I'm old now and looking at a boat own of 10-15 years with gulf crossing potential. Slow on the ease to heave until she's tensioned to please with a tease. I'm guessing the hulls a bit. If capacity tour cruising would happily include a hull pack of a camp stove, sleeping bag, towel, hoochie, food and water then that'll do. Nice overnighter. We used a 24 foot 12 degree plane light weight cabin yacht to cruise with. Last spinnaker run was a true reach gale skiff until guy downhaul sheared. We surfed behind Outer Harbour a bit. Reaching surfs of about 4 foot over 7 miles. Dolphins love it. A cat would be perfect. Easy tow, easy fun, same location local. In it to cruise more so than race. Day sails thought of. Wanting to race Saturdays with easy sheets. I had competitive raced and it was high maintenance. Been T-boned at full pace. Had an excellent crew, we sailed to dock without a windward stay once. Easier to go have fun , fill backfields at nationals, basic entertainment. Sailing's an art older than mans inventions of sailing crafts. To buy a boat is to purchase an option to be responsible per the upkeep of a vessels seaworthiness. I have 1 question. Which sailing club would best suit I please? I've found a ship load of seaworthy cats under $4000. I'd be happy maintaining any of them the next 10 years. I'm sure they have national fleet regattas with each. I'd prefer farther wind hence a tornado, I'd be equally stoked with mothers momentum and the surf loving fast cats. All boats I've looked at seal and are seaworthy. Just happy that someone learns a sail. Less pollution. Even scary friendliness such as a 4.5 metre white(probably 5 metre now) tend to look. I'm scared. No way I'm going swimming. She has gorgeous knowledge of being fluid. That scary excitement, like a skiffing cat. Low budget, high fun. I like the Dolphins. 6 calves lost during last 3 seasons indicates high waste in water. They're local allied weapons and we need them. When we used to reach behind Outer Harbour using mothers momentum (swell) to plane, they would dance. Approach gliding broach, breach on the reach. They have wisdom, they could see helm control. The yacht had a 340lb tapered edge steel keel which would right him when with eased sheets. We watched with feel as a very young calf was shown a hit; nose at keel. Probably the cow, possibly a male. We are human. Humans don't own Earth. More advanced civilizations then current have fallen here. I can't explain. Both eyes have vertical stigmatism. Blurry when stationary. Extremely clear when with movement. Catch a clew. All I do is carry my plastic and others pieces of plastic found along roadways etc home to place in the recycling bin rather than the landfill bin. Plastic such as pie wrappers, etc. If dolphins are struggling, then feast beasts on vacation would also be of pollution sting and irritated. I prefer them friendly. Dad's awesome. Years ago he was playing off Largs. He met the state champion. They raced to the fairway beacon and back. (14 mile?). The state champion beat him by not much. They swapped cats. Repeated route. The state champion thrashed him. He realized how rigid his Paper cat was. I'm the same as dad. Not that fast a sailor.. I like safety. I think dad was happy that 'Shere Khan' was with a good home. The other bloke was a really good sailor. I'd prefer a dagger board and love the idea of an inter peninsula ballistic missile that tows light on road. I really like those full keel Hobie cats too. They'll skiff with mothers momentum. Near the last time I sailed I took my mate Dan on a joy ride. On return to shore, I heaved the main, dropped leeward into a trough and flicked him flying. Being completely wet I suggested he grab a bow and hold while the small surf settled us upon the beach. The owner said I could have just beached her. Lol. Wasn't sure if we were allowed to scratch gel coat hence sat her gently. They're really nice cats in waves. I like them. I haven't skills yet. High speed blow the stink boats away with a sail rig propelled ballistic missile, yeah.. If we don't clean our Earth, we will get punished. That's why we're lucky to enjoy sailing. PST. Keep the boat out of UV light.. Makes sailing easier. Less maintenance is less cost. It is very difficult to understand. A crazy world here loves catamarans because the tramp is comfortable to sleep upon. It also shades the creatures below from the heat during summer. I'm glad to help pick up rubbish and recycle with you. Thanx.. I guess you read all that. Our locality isn't as clean as it appears. They are all intelligent too. Crazy aye. Love you too.
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    A crazy world.

    Lastly (because I type too much), I'm really scared of a bigger cat because of rigging /derigging. Maybe a Taipan4.9, Cobra, Mosquito, etc would best suit me. I have a bit of time to play with and I'm building a gap to fit a Tornado with repair room. Who knows, who cares. I had about 6 years at university studying engineering Electronic /Electrical. My teacher; professor Pope, has experience with electric car conversations. I'm pretty sure his father in laws 3rd conversion was a Subaru. About 80km range on 5 batteries. Knowing my van is rusty, I'm saving towards that idea. Cut rust, replace donk with electric, range it about 100-300km. Vent a generator below a bed in back to recharge if needed while long driving or while at sea if moderate drives. More torque then her petrol engine yet efficiently stable on low revs. Electronics should be easy enough to cut off when charged. Most weeks of year (48/52) shouldn't need fuel. (If nationals in Perth, no way bro). Glad government media say of electric charge stations on highways. Low cost living. If in same boat, ie plan is to leave vehicle hooked up and ride bicycle to work. Only needed to tow or rack kayaks on days off. Ask at club when we meet? Most difficult bit would be bell housing the machine to the gearbox, I wouldn't know how. Then lock in a preferred ratio of gearbox and remove stick. After that, electronics which I'm rusty with shouldn't be a big issue. Electrics tow really well. Torque curves. Hoping to be with a sail club soon. Best of luck brothers. Chao
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    New to catamarans, Adelaide

    Lastly, I feel like an idiot.. When does race season start? Which club would best suit I please? Probably best if I just rock up and go from there. Won't matter if I can't match race, a race or 2 and I'll find someone of similar knots to play with. Thanx. (The cats done my head in. )
  22. Boatsie

    New to catamarans, Adelaide

    Mosquitos on gumtree look tasty too. I'm guessing they rig/derig easilier and have a larger local fleet. They'd be big enough to me. I had an Arrow 25 years ago but don't remember well. Do you guys have much hassles solo rigging/derigging rotational spar rigs? I'm guessing a lot of days will be solo.
  23. Boatsie

    New to catamarans, Adelaide

    This is where I'm at bro. I doubt I have the helm reflexes to catch a clew steered thin skiff such as a cat. I have reflexes and I'm stoked that recent travel blind caught me the wrist of a professional pick pocket withdrawing 5grand from my pocket. (Aus $250). But flying a hull, skimming a blade and skiffing with a Leeward hull of about a foot width isn't that big a stance during dance. YouTube amazes me, you guys make it look easy. I hope to be comfortable within 3 years. I haven't touched sheet nor helm in about 20 years. We might be 3 years before we're standing on her dance. Hopefully I/we can go our cans this season and get some practice in. Very interested in 2 boats at moment. Not fussed if both sell and I wait another. In it to have fun and sail fast soon. Hoping to find time to fill in the back field at nationals in near future. $4000 foam glass Tornado on trailer ready to sail. Available May.. $1500 ply glass Stingray on trailer. All rot cut out, almost ready to sail. Small bits like tiller arm. Yes, interested with racing amongst other cats. I won't be fluent. I'd probably hull sit on main a season and wait to find a crew. If trapeze is quick to learn, you beauty.. I've heard Mosquitoes are racing 2up at Brighton. I like Largs because it's a nice natural bay. (And it's close). Brighton would take me +an hour morning, + an hour evening. What's the go on race days? Eg. What time does prerace rigging usually occur? I honestly haven't a clue. Boats on beach 10am? Launch 11? Earlier, later? Wishes you well, Nathan
  24. Boatsie

    New to catamarans, Adelaide

    Yes. I was at Ocean View High too. I think dad raced a couple of times (unsure), with his Paper Tiger at LBSC. Early 80s. Had a lot of mates in Sharpies there 90s. Yeah I'd love to Saturday race a cat. Depending upon boat which I haven't acquired yet, I might be a season later. Organizing now. Most probable is a Tornado. I don't know trapeze. I've learnt the importance of high flowing the back of the sails. Hence I'll be happy laughing at back of pack.
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    New to catamarans, Adelaide

    Edit: addition : An old man. Great parents. Dad built a Paper Tiger using hulls built at Lonsdale years ago.. Late 70s. If boat found in Adelaide /Melbourne they'll probably go fetch and have a holiday. I'm old, he's older; won't race. Budget very small. Grows slowly. Storage tight at moment but renovating to home a vessel. Plan seen as 2week or 2 year. Wanting sail practice in case I earn a cruiser later on. Can sail well. Know laws. Not that competitive though. In it to fun. Would rather something I may race though.
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