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    Nacra 5.8, Mozzy,Arrow,Arafura cadet,Windrush 14

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  1. madboutcats

    Stingray users manual?

    There were plenty of fast timber ones around at the same time as the Cherry hulls so I wouldn’t discount it as being heavy as that is a lighter medium to build in than the original glass hulls, being wood it will just depend wether it’s been looked after out of the weather, screws shouldn’t pull out as there is normally an aluminium strip inside the hulls to screw into, that may have corroded which means hopefully bigger screws or tap some other holes into it. Sometimes the strip was a lot of small sections of aluminium glasses in, that can break out so try not to take out all the screws out at the same time or you can lose the strips, hope that makes sense. Righting a small rig stingray is harder than a big rig which makes no sense to me, so I would suggest making sure your mast is water proof and tipping it over in the shallows near the beach for righting practice. If you have old blocks with the boat I would strongly suggest you put all the main sheet and jib blocks and sheets in a bucket for a week in with clothes washing powder and fabric softener, you will be surprised how much better they run which will lessen the chance of capsizing, rinse heaps or they will be slippery when you use them, when righting all downhaul, traveller, main and jib blocks need to be let go, enjoy your boat
  2. madboutcats

    Nacra National Titles 2019-2020

    We have been able to come up with another three houses within a short walk of the sailing club for rent over this regatta, this makes it quite cheap and can sleep up to eight in each house, contact me if you want info
  3. madboutcats

    Stingray users manual?

    I just found your post, I think you have an original rig but you can measure the mast
  4. madboutcats

    Stingray users manual?

    G’day Josh there’s no real manual but we can help with setting it up, first thing we need to know is which Stingray you have, I have had both the Big rig 30ft mast and Original rig 28ft mast. The masts are fairly soft by newer cat standards so you don’t want a heap of prebend in it unless you are really light, can you also say what your total crew weight is, water/ wind conditions where you sail, it all makes a difference with the settings. You might have a heavier original rig boat which is timber deck with fibreglass hulls, you may have all timber hulls or you may have fibreglass and foam “Cherry Hulls” which are very light, you can identify these with a picture of a stingray moulded into the forward deck.
  5. madboutcats

    Nacra National Titles 2019-2020

    Here is another link to the Notice of Race We are expecting the fleets to be 350, 430, 450, Nacra 5.8, Infusion and Miscellaneous, we are still a couple of 17's away from having a fleet so if you are thinking of joining the other 17's at the Nacra Nationals could you let me know http://www.users.on.net/~meningiesc/NOR NACRA Nationals Meningie.pdf
  6. madboutcats

    Nacra National Titles 2019-2020

    Sorry it has been pointed out to me that I posted the wrong dates for this event as it got changed from the proposal, racing is from Monday 30th of December 2019 to Saturday 4th of January 2020 with New Years Day being the lay day. I apologise for any inconvenience, the notice of race is correct, we have strong support for the event with a couple of people coming from England and a couple from Hong Kong, 10 boats from WA, and plenty from between there and Far North Qld. We are anticipating about 40 Nacras competing, rental house accomodation has been nearly booked out but there are a couple of houses that have just come up if you still need accomodation. It’s still a way off from cutoff for sending in the entry forms but I have to order shirts soon so if you want the correct size shirt it will be guaranteed if you put your form in soon otherwise I will be guessing, see you there
  7. madboutcats

    Nacra National Titles 2019-2020

    South Australian Nacra National Championship from December 28th 2019 to Friday January 3rd 2020. Info Meningie Sailing Club sits on the edge of freshwater Lake Albert with a surface area of 168 square kilometres, even though we are in drought our water depth for most of the lake and for the whole area in front of the club where we will be racing is currently between 1.9 metres and 2.3 metres. There are no obstacles to hit with boards fully down once a 5.8 is about 50 metres past the end of the jetty at the sailing club and Infusions would be recommended to go out another 75 metres before boards fully down. The lake bottom is about a foot of soft mud with no calcium deposits. There are no sharks, crocodiles, leeches, drop bears at Lake Albert it’s like a bigger Lake Wallis or Lake Cootharaba, our wind at New Years is typically light in the morning until the sea breeze fills in, typically we would expect 10 to 20 knots each afternoon, the club is at the end of the lake that the sea breeze generally comes from so typically the chop is only about a foot high , temperature would expect to be mid 20 degrees to high 30’s. Meningie is a very flat town, everything is walking distance with a modest hill on the other side of town from the club, there is plenty of parking available for trailers and boats, with holiday rental houses sprinkled through the town and some next to the club, there are two motels, a budget one right on the water about 500 metres north of the club and the better one on the opposite side of the road about 500 metres south of the club. The caravan park (Lake Albert Caravan Park) is on the waters edge 1.5 kilometres South of the club, it has terrific cabins and lawn camping areas as well as managing the school oval across the road from the club where camping will be available, they also set aside an area of lawn for those that prefer to sail in and out from their accommodation. There is a good pub with ok accommodation as well as separate bottle shop, a petrol station, ATM, hospital, doctors services, Foodland shopping centre good internet and all other normal town services. Meningie is 150km south of Adelaide, whilst at the club you must take the time to visit the Coorong, it’s a terrific drive with spectacular scenery only 15 minutes South of the town, if there is enough interest we will organise a family day on the lay day so we can 4wd across the dunes at the 42 mile crossing to the sea for a BBQ on the beach, don’t worry if you don’t have a vehicle to do it we will shuttle people in the 4wd’s we have, it’s not far from the sea and there is a board walk for those that wish to walk the crossing. For those that like fishing there are plenty of salmon and mulloway at that time of year so bring your fishing rods, no swimming in the sea though because some fish are too big, but beach cricket, footy’s and frisby’s could be arranged. other attractions for the family are a 2wd drive to the barrages up near Narrung that hold the Murray River water from entering the Coorong, visit the Narrows the creek between the two lakes and see the only active inland lighthouse in Australia, have a look out the other side of the Narrows and look out on our other huge lake, Lake Alexandrina with 649 square kilometres of surface area. There is plenty of other tourist things to do and places to visit so just ask if you want more info from me. Meningie Sailing Club management have run numerous National title events over the years and also run team sailing championships, they take their responsibilities seriously and will lay out the exact course we tell them and run the event according to what the association wants. The proceeds from this event will ensure that this small sailing club stays viable for quite a while. Holding the event at Meningie will continue the momentum we are building in the South East of SA with getting more Nacras on the water and you will be supporting a sailing club that has cat sailors that will do their best to reciprocate with a visit to your club. For those of you on Facebook, I would recommend looking at the picture gallery on the Meningie Sailing Clubs Facebook page so you can see the facilities and great sailing conditions.
  8. Nacra National Championships 2019-2020 Notice of race https://ausna.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/NOR-NACRA-Nationals-Meningie.pdf
  9. madboutcats

    Older plywood cat

    Thanks for the update, I think I regularly drive past a Quick Cat for sale near Policemans Point in the Coorong SA
  10. Thanks for a great write up, how long is the marathon race
  11. madboutcats

    Consignment Sale Problem

    Do you have a consumer affairs department in your state, that's probably your first port of call and also maybe tell them that if they don't pay the money by a given date you will name them on all the sailing forums, do you have paperwork from them regarding the consignment? If not you may have some trouble
  12. madboutcats

    Nacra National's 2018-2019

    We have worked out a terrific arrangement with the Meningie caravan park. If you book an unpowered site you have a choice between the caravan park or camping on the Meningie school oval directly across the road from the sailing club, this will be fully administered by the caravan park but the sailing club will want confirmation that you have paid the caravan park so there is no drama, only downside is being a school it is a dry zone see you there
  13. madboutcats

    Advice

    Don't worry too much about class rules any repairs you make will be fine, the others sailing Stingrays will just be happy to have you out there. Those fibreglass hull, timber deck boats are pretty old and unless the foam inside has been replaced you will find the hulls push in fairly easily. They just had normal foam for bulkheads and it breaks down, if the hulls push in easily it is really slow and the first thing to fix. Check the beams, they are a big job to replace and a common error is for someone to bolt the traveller track on right through the beam this causes a weakness in the beam leading it to crack. If the beams have cracks of any sort it will be easier to get them welded by a professional than go through the very big job of replacing the beam but that's up to you. So really first step is check beams and if hulls are wobbly take decks off and replace bulkheads then new decks which is very easy to do. If you apply new decks a good coat of International Everdure on the side that will be inside prior to assembling will ensure long life and then on top once it's assembled. I've done Stingray decks before and it is relatively easy and satisfying if you have to do it. Good luck with your project and thanks for adding some life to the forum
  14. madboutcats

    Thanx

    Wow you sure know how to fire some questions, the easiest way to work out the length you need on a righting pole is to put virtually a full length windsurfer mast on it and then work out how far out you need to go out on the pole to right it, there is ne easy equation. I found the short rig Stingray harder to right than the big rig so I would suggest to keep the pole long. I made a righting pole on my Stingray when I sailed with my kids, don't under estimate the amount of load the end of the mast that connects with the main beam is under, it took a bit of trial and error for me to get it right and that was about 3ft hanging behind the rear beam on a big rig. Make sure you have a good main sheet system, most of my early capsizes were due to not being able to release the main sheet in time, in fact I would suggest you set the cleat so you can't cleat it while your learning and save yourself some swimming. I would also suggest if your on Facebook to join the South Australian beach cat sailors site as a lot of those people have raced Stingray's and have a genuine affection for them, you actually have a good handicap with that boat so will enjoy racing it as we will enjoy helping you along. If you can get the boat going by Easter bring it along to Milang and we can have a look over it for you and the lakes are the best place for those boats as they are at their best when it's fast and flat as the beams are quite low to the water so really notice ocean swell. Good luck with the boat they are a great boat and I look forward to meeting you
  15. madboutcats

    Thanx

    Well done they are a fun boat, you can't right it on your own so think about a righting pole or similar, whilst racing has nearly stopped for the season, keep in mind Milang on Easter Saturday and Sunday and Rum Race at Victor Harbour first Sunday in May, I'll be at both
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