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About tonyquoll

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  • Birthday 12/19/1967


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    perviously race Sailfish, Leader, Heron, scow+skiff Moth, and mucked baout on a sailboard.
    Currently racing Paper Tiger cat & Laser Radial.
    Also sailing Pacer, Sabre, Maricat, Windrush and other as opportunties arise.
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    Wallagoot, NSW, Australia
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    conservation, film-making, art, music
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    Artist, Designer, Ecologist, Researcher, Journalist, Sailing Instructor
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    Paper Tiger

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  1. tonyquoll

    Cat yardsticks for regatta

    At the Wallagoot Lake Boat Club, we have been using a mix of Koonawarra and YV yardsticks. For example: Hobie 14 93 Hobie 14 Turbo 88 Maricat Cat Rig 94 Maricat Cat Rig, Foam hull 92 Maricat Sloop Rig: 2up 94 Maricat Sloop Rig: Foam hull, 2up 92 Maricat Super Sloop:1up +/- trapeze 90 Maricat - Super Sloop + Foam hull 88 Nacra 14 square 85YV Paper Tiger 92 Windrush Cat Rig: 1up 94.5YV Windrush Sloop Rig: 2up 94 Windrush Sloop Rig: 1up 90.5YV Windrush Super Sloop:1up+trapeze 87 YV Weta (1-up) 91YV Weta (2-up) 94YV I was asked "why don't we just use YV, like all the other clubs? Aren't Koonawarra out of date now"? Well because the latest VYC yardstick includes these: Hobie 14 96.5 Hobie 14 Turbo 90.5 Maricat 4.3 Cat 96, +1 for GRP Hulls Maricat 4.3 Sloop 91, +1 for GRP Hulls Maricat 4.3 Super Sloop 89, +1 for GRP Hulls Nacra 14 square 84.5 Paper Tiger 92.5 Windrush 4.3 Cat 94.5 Windrush Sloop Rig: 2up 94 Windrush Sloop Rig: 1up 90.5 Windrush Super Sloop:1up+trapeze 88 Weta 1up: 86 Why have Maricats gained 4 points over PTs? Did they win the Quiddich cup? Who agrees that Nacra 14squares have gotten faster, and PTs slower? Has anyone ever seen a Weta beat all other 14' cats around the course by several minutes? Please advise us.
  2. tonyquoll

    Wallagoot Regatta

    WLBC Regatta this weekend - 12 & 13 march 2016 http://wlbc.org.au/wlbc-regatta/ Expecting warm weather and fresh seabreezes. Volunteers ready to do registration, set courses, run the races, makes lunches, make dinner and serve at the bar. We've got 6 cases of beer and a variety of wines for the 20 or so people expected to turn up. Responsible serving of alcohol? Absolutely. It's better if they can't walk to their car. On-site camping / vanning / club house squatting OK. Or I've got a couple of spare beds minutes away. Should be fun! WLBC NOR 16.pdf
  3. The latest issue of the Australian Paper Tiger newsletter (APT) is now available for download. It's a 24page issue, with reports on the past internationals, nationals and various state titles, promos for upcoming nationals and inters, classifieds and more. 4mb pdf file: http://www.papertigercatamaran.org/aptca/media/newsletters/APT-19.pdf
  4. tonyquoll

    Regatta dates.

    Updated list for this season: 3 - 4 October 2015 Jervis Bay Regatta http://www.jervisbaysailingclub.org/ 3 -5 October 2015, Forster Wild Cat http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?assoc=9974&pID=1 3 – 5 October Wagga Wagga Regatta http://www.waggawaggasailingclub.com.au/ 9-10 Oct, 2015 Mannering Park 14’ Cat Regatta http://www.mannering.../temp/index.php 31 Oct - 1 Nov 2015 ACT Multihulls, Maricat States http://www.canberra....es/default.aspx 7 – 8 Nov 2015 KCC Top Gun Regatta http://www.kcc.asn.au/ 14 - 15 Nov 2015 ACT Dinghy Champs http://canberrayc.com/ 28-29 Nov, Kembla Klassic http://www.pksc.com.au/ 28 Dec - 3 Jan, Paper Tiger National Champs, Wallaroo SA http://papertigercatamaran.org/aptca/ 23/24 Jan, Mannering Pk Open Cat Regatta http://www.mannering.../temp/index.php 23-25 Jan, Paper Tiger NSW State Champs, Koonawarra http://nswptca.paper...ttas-and-events 26 Jan 2016 Australia Day Regatta, Port Kembla http://www.pksc.com.au/ 26 Jan 2016 Australia Day Regatta, KCC http://www.kcc.asn.au/ 6 Feb Concord Ryde 2016, Paper Tiger traveller race, Maricat Nationals http://www.concordrydesailing.org.au/ 20 - 21 Feb 2016 Twofold Bay Regatta (Eden) http://www.twofoldba...-0-0&sID=64418# 28 Feb 2016 KCC Cock of the Bay http://www.kcc.asn.au/ 5 - 6 March 2016 Lake Jindabyne Sailing Club regatta https://www.facebook.com/sailjindabyne 5 - 6 March 2016 Kembla Cats http://www.pksc.com.au/ 13 - 14 March 2016 Wallagoot Lake Regatta http://wlbc.org.au/ 23 - 24 April 2016 Batemans Bay Anzac Regatta http://bbsc.org.au/ 30 April, BYRA marathon http://www.byra.org.au Have deleted Coila Lake Regatta, as organisers told me it's been cancelled.
  5. tonyquoll

    New Cat regatta on Lake Illawarra

    Regattas on/near the south-coast of NSW: Jervis Bay Regatta 3 - 4 October 2015 http://www.jervisbaysailingclub.org/ ACT Multihulls 31 Oct - 1 Nov 2015 http://www.canberra.ymca.org.au/sailing/events/Pages/default.aspx ACT Dinghy Champs 14 - 15 Nov 2015, http://canberrayc.com/ Twofold Bay Regatta (Eden) 20 - 21 Feb 2016 http://www.twofoldbayyc.yachting.org.au/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-10021-0-0-0&sID=64418# Coila Lake Regatta 20 - 21 Feb 2016 http://www.otb.bbsc.org.au/ Lake Jindabyne Sailing Club regatta 5 - 6 March 2016 https://www.facebook.com/sailjindabyne Kembla Cats 5 - 6 March 2016 http://www.pksc.com.au/ Wallagoot Lake Regatta 13 - 14 March 2016 http://wlbc.org.au/ Batemans Bay Anzac Regatta 23 - 24 April 2016 http://bbsc.org.au/ There's also Paper Tiger Internationals, 24 - 28 March 2016, Auckland NZ. Boats attending this regatta are typically stuck in a shipping container for 4 weeks either side of the event (27 Feb - 24 April). http://www.papertigercatamaran.org/ Any chance the Kembla Cats could go to early December instead? Tell YNSW that it's part of "Sail Sydney", facilitating racing for the classes they exclude in their snobbish regatta. http://www.sailsydney.org.au/
  6. tonyquoll

    Regatta dates.

    Would you please explain more about these KCC Regattas? Why is it "Top Gun", why the Bay Classic, and who wants to be known as the "Cock of the bay"? (I can think of YNSW Official based at KCC who deserves the title...) Which of these will have a decent course for a small cat?
  7. That's during the ACT Multihull Championships, at YMCA Sailing Club, Yarralumla, Oct 31 - Nov 1. The event is also a round of the Paper Tiger State Pointscore. Windrush, Hobies, Weta and Nacra also expected to be in attendance. Should be great racing!
  8. I've found towing with a car too small did wear out the engine prematurely. And there wasn't enough weight on the front wheels, so it would wheel-spinin 2nd trying to get up hills and skid under brakes. That was a Holden Barina (Suzuki Swift) towing 2 paper tigers on a big 7 x 4 box trailer... Photo: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488568279866&l=26e50b48cb The little Barina towed those boats from Mallacoota to Melbourne, to Kembla, to Canberra, to Lake Macquaire, to Batemans Bay. Probably of the 100,000km I did in it, more than half was towing boats. I upgraded to a Ford Laser (Mazda 323) with big heavy iron 1600cc up front. Works SO much better! Here's us crossing the Great Diving Range, in snow, on the way to PT State Titles at Wagga: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150466375824867&l=9729750d1a
  9. tonyquoll

    Regatta dates.

    Some confusing wording on the MPASC website then "2015 14' Open Cat Reagatta 10th and 11th of October 2015 Notice of Race here."
  10. tonyquoll

    Regatta dates.

    3-4 Oct 2015, Jervis Bay Regatta http://www.jervisbaysailingclub.org/ 9-10 Oct, 2015 Mannering Park Open Cat Regatta http://www.manneringparkasc.org.au/temp/index.php 31 Oct - Nov 1, ACT Multihull Champs http://www.canberra.ymca.org.au/sailing/events/Pages/default.aspx 28-29 Nov, Kembla Klassic http://www.pksc.com.au/ 28 Dec - 3 Jan, Paper Tiger National Champs, Wallaroo SA http://papertigercatamaran.org/aptca/ 23-25 Jan, Paper Tiger NSW State Champs, Koonawarra http://nswptca.papertigercatamaran.org/index.php/regattas-and-events 13-14 Feb 2016, Coila Lake Regatta http://www.otb.bbsc.org.au/ 13-14 Feb 2016, Twofold Bay Regatta, Eden http://twofoldbayyc.yachting.org.au/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-10021-0-0-0&sID=61962# 6-7 Feb 2016 (to be confirmed) Lake Jindabyne Regatta https://www.facebook.com/sailjindabyne 12-13 Mar 2016, Wallagoot Lake Regatta http://wlbc.org.au/wlbc-regatta/ 23-24 April 2016, Batemans Bay Anzac Regatta, http://bbsc.org.au/
  11. tonyquoll

    2015 yardsticks

    When trying to convert yardsticks from overseas, I use the Hobie14 and Hobie 16 to compare data. Those boats have been around for 40 years, have never changed, and there's some in every country. It would make sense to me to have seperate tables for windward - leeward boats (yardstick less than 84?) and those who sail triangles.
  12. tonyquoll

    2015 yardsticks

    The Yachting Victoria Yardsticks are as contentious as ever, with changes, ommissions and errors. The list is here: http://vic.yachting.org.au/get_file.cgi?id=3363604 Comparing them to the 2012-13 yardsticks, some classes have had substantial changes. For example: Arafura 113, up from 108 Arrow 89.5, up from 89 (despite new masts and sails making the class faster) F14 deleted, was 72 Maricat 4.3 Cat 94.5, 1 up: +2 for pre Foam Sandwich Hulls. Up from 94, 1 up: -2 for Foam Sandwich Hulls Mosquito cat (Mk1) 83.5, up from 83 Mosquito sloop (MkII) 81.5, down from 82 Paper Tiger 92.5, up from 91.5 (despite more carbon bits making boats faster) Previously a Paper Tiger and foam-hull Maricat (cat rigged) had the same yardstick, which was verified by the Koonawarra yardsticks for 14' cats: http://www.koonawarrabaysc.org.au/images/yardsticks.pdf Around the courses, this seemed correct. PTs could tack faster and get upwind quicker, but the bigger sail on the Mari saw them catch up again downwind. Typically a boat sailed cat-rigged 1-up has the same yardstick as one sailed sloop-rigged 2-up. This because the extra sail area of the jib is negated by the extra weight of the crew. So do we assume that a cat-rigged Mosquito MkII should be 81.5, and a sloop-rigged Mk1 be 83.5? Since F14 is no longer listed, one becomes obliged to look back at older tables to find a number. The 12-13 yardsticks listed changes to rigs, including: Reduction in crew size -2.0% Sloop rigged cat sailed 1 up -4.5% These were ommitted from the 14-15 yardsticks, so at one club which has light winds, there are boats like Nacra 5.8, Hobie 18 and Tornado being sailed 1-up with no change to yardstick. I contacted the relevant authority, drawing attention to the Koonawarra Yardsticks and my own observations of racing in cat classes at regattas over the past decade. I asked what was the basis for increasing maricats by 2.5 points? The response included: "To support the Yachting Victoria "performance" based analysis, all class yardsticks listed are also assessed (for confirmation) under the Small Catamaran Handicap Rating System (SCHRS), which is the ISAF preferred method of calculating "Ratings" for small OTB Catamarans. "The required SCHRS Measurement data has been accurately obtained for all Australian classes and input to the Ratings formulae, then converted to a Yachting Victoria yardstick. Refer to the Yachting Victoria Catamaran Table documentation for further details. "The following SCHRS converted Yachting Victoria yardsticks are shown for relevant classes below: Maricat 4.3 Cat (foam): 95.5 Windrush 14 (pin head): 94.5 Paper Tiger: 94" There were also impolite comments about the Koonawarra yardsticks and my own sailing which I'll not repeat here. Although the guy argued about how important race data was, this data was ignored in favour of these speculative calculations to change the Mari yardstick. Even there, his data says Mari is 1.5 slower than PT, but the VY yardstick is 2 points different. My view is that these yardsticks cannot be strictly applied. The changes to rig listed in 2012 should still be used. Where the figure is wrong, a correct one should be substituted. At Wallagoot, we've mixed up YV, Koonawarra, and come up with some other numbers: http://wlbc.org.au/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/cat-yardsticks.doc Supposing a boat doesn't strictly comply with class rules, then the yardstick should be adjusted to a fair figure. For example a Paper Tiger with a loose foot sail would not change, as it offers no performance advantage. An Arrow with square-top and other updates might drop to 87.5
  13. There has been an increase in sailors and cats at the Southern Highlands Sailing Club, who sail on Fitzroy Falls Reservoir. They can't organise a regatta, because they are restricted to sailing on Sundays. It was also suggested that a few of us experienced cat sailors could drop by one day, maybe offer the locals a few tips. The club is keen and has adopted my joke name of the Gatecrash Regatta. To be held Sunday April 12. It'll be fun! I've suggested we each put $10 in a hat, winner takes all, and the club is also offering a small prize, for winner on yardstick. They've created it as an event on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/1421282661515664/?ref=3&ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular&feed_story_type=263 The location of the club is here: https://goo.gl/maps/79bpi
  14. tonyquoll

    ANZAC Regatta 1015

    my Paper Tiger and Dad's nacra 14 square confirmed, as usual. This regatta one of the highlights of the season; a fantastic place to race and great turn-out of boats. We rig up on Corrigan's Beach, look out for the sandbar at low tide, go around Snapper Island and sail in the bay before the Toll Gates. https://goo.gl/maps/ztZca Love it when there's an easterly swell rolling through. For accommodation, I favour the "studio units" at the Big4 Batemans Bay Beach Resort, which is walking distance to the club and rigging area. The big cats are usually seen parked on thebeach in front of the Clyde View Holiday Park. No shortage of B&Bs, units and all else nearby.
  15. tonyquoll

    Nacra 16 Square for sale

    a club member here at Wallagoot NSW may be interested, Where is the boat? Sorry; just saw in another thread - Bundaberg Qld. Bit too far from here